09-21-2016, 03:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-21-2016, 03:32 PM by Lunar.
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Tianeptine, tianeptine, oh and did I mention tianeptine?
This stuff was an absolute godsend for me as I went through withdrawals from long time regular use of a certain μ-opioid subtype receptor agonist that is soon to be scheduled alongside other drugs that the DEA, in it's infinite wisdom, deem a significant enough threat to the sleeping masses, decided to make it illegal even for scientific research to be conducted.
I could go on, but I won't. I actually decided to quit eating the leaves of this soon to be illegal plant before I even heard the news that it is to be made illegal.
Anyway, acting on similar receptors throughout the body, I decided to try loperdimide first for the WDs but this made my stomach hurt so bad that I decided to set that bottle aside after only the second use and went in search of something else. That's when I found that tianeptine pretty much obliterated all WD symptoms. I had to take 160mg every three hours or so, which is double what I normally take but it worked like a charm. 50 to 100mg should work for those who have no tolerance developed with this substance.
It should work for most μ-opioid subtype receptor agonists, which should include any opiate. But I'm no doctor, so use at your own risk.
Specifically I used 160mgs tianeptine sodium every three to four hours and about 2200mgs of phenibut at bed time for the first 48 hours. With this combo I actually slept a little!!! (I probably also took a crap load of Swanson sleep essentials and melatonin but I don't remember exactly)
On the third night I switch to taking 400mgs of tianeptine sulfate once at bedtime instead of waking up every few hours to take tianeptine sodium. (NOTE: The sulfate form is much milder and lasts a lot longer than than it's sodium counterpart. Though, when using the sulfate, most take roughly 2 - 3 times as much, the 400mgs I took is probably way more than most will need.)
I continued this routine for the next couple weeks, which left me really tired all the time, and in retrospect I probably should have stopped using the tianeptine much sooner.
WARNING: TIaneptine has some WDs too. But they are really mild and short lived, especially is you switch over to the sulfate form before discontinuing use.
This stuff was an absolute godsend for me as I went through withdrawals from long time regular use of a certain μ-opioid subtype receptor agonist that is soon to be scheduled alongside other drugs that the DEA, in it's infinite wisdom, deem a significant enough threat to the sleeping masses, decided to make it illegal even for scientific research to be conducted.
I could go on, but I won't. I actually decided to quit eating the leaves of this soon to be illegal plant before I even heard the news that it is to be made illegal.
Anyway, acting on similar receptors throughout the body, I decided to try loperdimide first for the WDs but this made my stomach hurt so bad that I decided to set that bottle aside after only the second use and went in search of something else. That's when I found that tianeptine pretty much obliterated all WD symptoms. I had to take 160mg every three hours or so, which is double what I normally take but it worked like a charm. 50 to 100mg should work for those who have no tolerance developed with this substance.
It should work for most μ-opioid subtype receptor agonists, which should include any opiate. But I'm no doctor, so use at your own risk.
Specifically I used 160mgs tianeptine sodium every three to four hours and about 2200mgs of phenibut at bed time for the first 48 hours. With this combo I actually slept a little!!! (I probably also took a crap load of Swanson sleep essentials and melatonin but I don't remember exactly)
On the third night I switch to taking 400mgs of tianeptine sulfate once at bedtime instead of waking up every few hours to take tianeptine sodium. (NOTE: The sulfate form is much milder and lasts a lot longer than than it's sodium counterpart. Though, when using the sulfate, most take roughly 2 - 3 times as much, the 400mgs I took is probably way more than most will need.)
I continued this routine for the next couple weeks, which left me really tired all the time, and in retrospect I probably should have stopped using the tianeptine much sooner.
WARNING: TIaneptine has some WDs too. But they are really mild and short lived, especially is you switch over to the sulfate form before discontinuing use.