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Preferred Benzo for Dependence
#11
Valium sounds so 1960s. eg Stones’ “Mother’s Little Helper” while Xanax seems much cooler :-) But diazepam/Valium is by far the safest Benzo.
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#12
Agreed with the xanax theory, and have seen the evidence first hand. The shorter acting benzos cause rapid slowing down and speeding up of our gaba transmitters and wore out synapses. In my opinion its hard on the body, the rapid suppression and rapid speeding up while its wearing off and this is what causes the seizures in people. The long acting ones are much more gentle on us.
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#13
Their is nothing special about Xanax and I know for sure that Valium is so much easier to come off and the withdrawals are so much less severe but their is a difference between these meds and it’s more than just the half life. When you take Valium, you feel it kick in, it helps calm things down but along with it comes a heavy feeling. A feeling like I want to sleep but cannot. Xanax targets the anxiety cleanly. It just wipes the anxiety out. Of course this is short lived and quickly the med leaves your system which leaves you so anxious. Xanax simply targets the anxiety without any dirty feeling. Once that Xanax wears off, you will quickly need another one. At least that’s been my experience.
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#14
Benzodiazepines have been to have linked to a bunch of not-so-good long term effects, the most pronounced/problematic being in the motor cognitive department. That being said I have severe anxiety and I take them daily, I prefer Clonazepam during the day and lorazepam at night, the former seems to have a less “impairing” effect, not that either do in the slightest with the development of tolerance. The reason I prefer these longer acting medications over alprazolam (as you were discussing) and other short-acting benzodiazepines is the associated “rebound anxiety” that is commonly experienced when a potent anxiolytic is wearing off at a rapid pace, potentially inducing the very kind of panic they are meant to quell, and being potentially counterproductive in my mind. That being said, with benzodiazepines everyone reacts VERY differently, and no one person or opinion is “right”, it’s all just brain chemistry after all and we don’t understand it very well. Oh well, that’s my 2 Cents
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#15
(01-03-2020, 06:12 PM)Wannabenormal18 Wrote: Their is nothing special about Xanax and I know for sure that Valium is so much easier to come off and the withdrawals are so much less severe but their is a difference between these meds and it’s more than just the half life. When you take Valium, you feel it kick in, it helps calm things down but along with it comes a heavy feeling. A feeling like I want to sleep but cannot. Xanax targets the anxiety cleanly. It just wipes the anxiety out. Of course this is short lived and quickly the med leaves your system which leaves you so anxious. Xanax simply targets the anxiety without any dirty feeling. Once that Xanax wears off, you will quickly need another one. At least that’s been my experience.

Completely agree on all points. Valium gets me to the right level of calm and stays long enough that I’m not on edge knowing it’ll wear off real soon and have to redose like Xanax. Plus if you do decide to quit obviously Valium is king of tapering off.
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#16
(01-12-2020, 02:48 AM)seeker47 Wrote:
(01-03-2020, 06:12 PM)Wannabenormal18 Wrote: Their is nothing special about Xanax and I know for sure that Valium is so much easier to come off and the withdrawals are so much less severe but their is a difference between these meds and it’s more than just the half life. When you take Valium, you feel it kick in, it helps calm things down but along with it comes a heavy feeling. A feeling like I want to sleep but cannot. Xanax targets the anxiety cleanly. It just wipes the anxiety out. Of course this is short lived and quickly the med leaves your system which leaves you so anxious. Xanax simply targets the anxiety without any dirty feeling. Once that Xanax wears off, you will quickly need another one. At least that’s been my experience.

Completely agree on all points. Valium gets me to the right level of calm and stays long enough that I’m not on edge knowing it’ll wear off real soon and have to redose like Xanax. Plus if you do decide to quit obviously Valium is king of tapering off.
I can relate to that 100% seeker, the need to redose made me decide to quit cold Turkey at one point. Tired of the lightning FAST tolerance increase. With that being said, that is why it is perfect for panic/anxiety attacks not everyday use for anxiety
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#17
Once upon a time Librium hands down now too hard to find and somewhat restricted currently.

Valium is now 1 first choice.
Ativan is 2
Clonaz is 3

Xanax in my opinion absolute last for dependence still fine for acute panic but not what you asked.

Consult professional re tapering and dependence issues-i just offer a point of view.
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