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Brexit - easier to receive or worse?
#11
It does feel like some kind of parallel universe of insanity we are going through,next it will be Reese Mogg dressed as Oswald Mosely trying to storm through the east end on a white horse stark naked carrying a union jack and dragging his son along behind on a length of rope.

At the mo,mail seems ok from Europe,get it while you can,panic buy a huge supply of magazines to read through the impending darkness we will be consumed by.....LoL!
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(10-26-2019, 01:37 PM)G.Elias Wrote: It does feel like some kind of parallel universe of insanity we are going through,next it will be Reese Mogg dressed as Oswald Mosely trying to storm through the east end on a white horse stark naked carrying a union jack and dragging his son along behind on a length of rope.

At the mo,mail seems ok from Europe,get it while you can,panic buy a huge supply of magazines to read through the impending darkness we will be consumed by.....LoL!

Thanks for that Mogg-mental image... that's my nightmares for the next week sorted out! :-)

I know what you mean though, as I feel like we are heading for a "rivers of blood" type rant from somewhere. Although the reassurances are so brilliantly pitiful it is beyond satire: "it won't be a Mad Max dystopia"; "there will be adequate food" etc. This is the economic equivalent of having trade sanctions placed on us by most of the world. Only we chose to do it to ourselves.

My best friend works in logistics. She controls where those containers and pallets of goods go. I used to be in retail management and stock control. The "just in time" logistics model once beloved of the financial sector as efficient isn't going to serve us well... It only takes a relatively small percentage of people to stock up on extra milk, bread, etc on the day before Brexit and you will see empty shelves. The media will run that story and so more panic buying will occur. So you can have shortages purely due to consumer behaviour. God help us when the supply side gets restricted by lorries arriving at Dover. The main comfort is people are very predictable in what they panic buy. Bread, milk, baked beans. If you can do some lateral thinking then you'll have some weird meals, but there will still be food.

Now it is delayed a bit longer so we won't have to spend Christmas fighting over who gets to eat the best bit of roasted rat and scavenging for roadkill. As a vegetarian, I'm screwed as there won't be any roadkill Quorn! ;-)
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#13
Oh no xmas/brexit and now a election,you just know the madness is going to go into over drive now,theres panic buying at xmas,shops closed for 2/3 days and folk buy enough for a month,imagine what the eve of Brexit will be like,whenever thats going to be,i'm really starting to think it might not happen,i wish xmas wasnt going to happen either,quorn sos rolls from greggs for xmas dinner with instant mash(if theres enough milk left to make it.)..Eventually Reece Mogg will fall from that horse and it'll be one mighty bump he feels.

It should have been today we left the EU,at least the mail is ok at the mo and no rioting as predicted by god knows who.
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(10-31-2019, 02:02 PM)G.Elias Wrote: Oh no xmas/brexit and now a election,you just know the madness is going to go into over drive now,theres panic buying at xmas,shops closed for 2/3 days and folk buy enough for a month,imagine what the eve of Brexit will be like,whenever thats going to be,i'm really starting to think it might not happen,i wish xmas wasnt going to happen either,quorn sos rolls from greggs for xmas dinner with instant mash(if theres enough milk left to make it.)..Eventually Reece Mogg will fall from that horse and it'll be one mighty bump he feels.

It should have been today we left the EU,at least the mail is ok at the mo and no rioting as predicted by god knows who.

It is almost as though those predictions of rioting were part of some project to create fear ;-) The Brexit fanatics banged on about "project fear" during the referendum (or what I call "reality")... it is almost like they are now doing it themselves, but I'm sure they'd never be so dishonourabe.

While part of me thinks that if it is going to happen, let's get on with it, I think there are logistical advantages in it NOT being just pre Christmas. Around late Jan there is more slack in the system, more space in the warehouses, etc. It still isn't good, but the run up to xmas was an especially stupid time to do it - although you might say the same of holding an election. It is almost as though they know lots of uni students will have just gone back home and won't be able to vote. Saying that, universities are no longer allowed to help get all their students on the electoral roll, each student has to do it independently. Clearly that wasn't done to save work, so it is almost like the Tories don't want half a million students whose fees got jacked up to 9k to vote. Next watch out for voter ID - having to show photo ID before you can vote. Guess who is less likely to have a passport? Clue: They don't vote Conservative.

It makes me really angry on behalf of those younger people. They'll inherit a load of debt and a screwed-up planet. Well done everyone!

I don't have kids mainly because I'm gay so it would take a bit more "organisation" and pretty unlikely to happen on a drunken night out ;-) But having a little distance from the kids situation honestly makes me think I wouldn't want to bring them into this world, knowing the debt they'll inherit and climate change could be really bad by the end of their lives. I guess I'd consider adopting, but those are kids who already exist so it's a bit different. But my paternal/maternal parenting needs are met by having hundreds of students to look after.

Sorry, this has gone from a practical question about postage to me having an existential breakdown!!! LOL. :-)

I placed an order very specifically to catch the start of Brexit and see what happened, but obviously Brexit is delayed so we won't find out for a while. Now I need to check the use by dates on my Brexit stash of food, household stuff and meds... BTW I'm not suggesting the collapse of society (!!!), just in case I'm making anyone anxious. It is more that it could be a load of hassle to queue for certain things if there is high demand, especially in cold January. I'd rather have those tins of soup bought and ready. Same applies to the "magazine" situation.
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Worst , no doubt. My sister live in UK and when she buy meds from a country that is " almost " part of the EU , they get a "LL" as high of a 50 % of the times. Now, when you buy it from a country that is real part of the EU, mags arrive 100 % of the times.
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#16
It never ends does it this brexit la la land carry on,all the tricks johnston has been pulling,all the lies one after another,sad thing is,working class folk will vote a load of upper class 21st century toffs in rather than anything remotely linked to socialism,all the crap being written about terrorist sympathiser,turning us into a broke Venezuela etc.
Think we are seeing some of the worst underhand behaviour from politicians we may ever see,unless this is now the norm which wouldnt surprise me.
The ruling class has nothing but disdain for us,we are inferior,as recently pointed out by the freak Rees Mogg,he needs putting back in his victorian coffin they dug him up from.
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(11-06-2019, 04:40 PM)G.Elias Wrote: It never ends does it this brexit la la land carry on,all the tricks johnston has been pulling,all the lies one after another,sad thing is,working class folk will vote a load of upper class 21st century toffs in rather than anything remotely linked to socialism,all the crap being written about terrorist sympathiser,turning us into a broke Venezuela etc.
Think we are seeing some of the worst underhand behaviour from politicians we may ever see,unless this is now the norm which wouldnt surprise me.
The ruling class has nothing but disdain for us,we are inferior,as recently pointed out by the freak Rees Mogg,he needs putting back in his victorian coffin they dug him up from.

Yes, Jacob Rees-Mogg's comments about the Grenfel fire were awful. Blaming the very people who died in a tower block fire is simply beyond words. If that man had his way women's right to choose (re abortion) would be gone and wave goodbye to gay rights too. The man is beyond satire.

The last few years feel like we've been living through an especially bad episode of The Thick of It. Or more like an episode that didn't get made as the script seemed too implausible. We are beyond the "piss up/brewery" situation and through the looking glass.

There was a time in the UK where people basically agreed on the facts, but had different beliefs about what should be done - like the left/right divide. Now we are "post-truth" it seems debates aren't won through facts, logic and reasoning, they are won using lies and emotional manipulation. For every complicated situation in the world there is an apparently simple solution that is wrong. During this rise in popularism we are fed these seemingly easy solutions that appeal on an emotional level. Any expert who dares point out it might be a bit more complicated than that, gets shouted down on the basis of being part of the "liberal metropolitan elite". When did we stop valuing knowledge and logical debate?
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#18
Am moving out of England if possible,after that election result things are going to get worse.
What pisses me off is all those pit villages that got destroyed by Thatcher voted for more of the same,plus we all helped the miners for that long year in so many ways and now they turn to a party that basically destroyed them,ya cant make this shit up any more,everything they ask for they deserve what they'll get and what they'll also lose.
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(12-16-2019, 05:37 PM)G.Elias Wrote: Am moving out of England if possible,after that election result things are going to get worse.
What pisses me off is all those pit villages that got destroyed by Thatcher voted for more of the same,plus we all helped the miners for that long year in so many ways and now they turn to a party that basically destroyed them,ya cant make this shit up any more,everything they ask for they deserve what they'll get and what they'll also lose.

I can understand that. I would also leave, with huge regret, but have elderly parents so am tethered to the country for now. Where are you moving to? I sometimes think about Scotland. In bolder moments I think of NZ, although that'd be a big no if I were still making orders from any of the places on this forum!

The England I grew up in seems to have vanished. We've gone through surreal, down the rabbit hole, beyond "you couldn't make it up", and into I've run out of metaphors territory!

Agree the election result was terrible. I honestly don't have the words to describe how I feel about Boris Johnson. I actually find myself thinking Thatcher was better in that she was more honest (however much I disagreed with her). Boris is a genuine sociopath, it doesn't bother him he is caught out lying. He has such contempt for reality he trolls people with things like his absurd story of making toy red buses out of wine boxes. He doesn't even care that it's obviously bullshit, and that everyone knows it is BS. It has somehow seduced otherwise decent people who have voted for all this.

I was young in the miners' strike, but brought up to respect it and I remember my mom helping collect tins of food to support them. I'm currently in a job taking industrial action and going on strike is really expensive. I'm amazed the general public don't seem to realise you don't get paid if on strike. I'd have thought that was obvious. So being yelled at by random members of the public to go and do what I'm paid for isn't fun - I'm not paid... that's sort of the point.
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#20
If i move just getting over the border into what they call the 'Borders' would do,its a mixture of clean air n reasonably cheap rents from some searching i did about a year ago,a few folk i know want to move,the Johnston lot might close the border though,lol,it wouldn't surprise me.
I could really do with the clean air,living next to a major ring road is not healthy.
No,cant be fun getting no money when you are striking for something better,thats another one they'll be going after.
Making strikes illegal,like some crazy banana state,people died to get a lot of the rights we have and its all going to be wiped clean to create their own vision of fuckery,not sure how long this brexit honeymoon is going to last,when it goes pearshaped for years theyll be screaming for heads then.
Johnston wont last,he's unstable,plus theres the kompromat hotel tape the ex-KGB turned politicians have of Johnston and Trump doing god knows what.The mind boggles lol.
Good luck with the strike Barq,are there any kind of funding sites that those on strike with you could raise money when you are going without wages?We can all help each other standing up for something better even if its just a few quid out of my giro.

Will try and check back next few days,damn its cold up here,no good for my bones.
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