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5 common signs of depression that a counselor will probably never ask you about
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(01-09-2018, 01:58 PM)FirePlaces Wrote: Hi RM,

Genetic testing for the best AD sounds like a huge step forward for depression treatment.  I googled it but could find no information.  Could you elaborate?

Thanks,

Fire

Hey Fire,
You have an in-office cheek swab at your doctors to get a sample of your DNA, which they then send off to a lab to be mixed with different AD's. The lab reports on how each med metabolized. It can also be done with PK meds for people who suffer with pain. The old way to find the right med for a patient was a long PET session with IV introduction of different medications. This new way is exciting because it relies on DNA and is also so easy to participate in. When I had MDD, it was torture to accomplish the simplest thing. A trip for a PET scan would have been like climbing Mt Everest. GeneSight is the largest company of the few that are springing up. Insurance companies are beginning to cover gene testing. Medicare and Medicaid both cover it, 100%. Other insurance companies usually require a co-pay. GeneSight claims that the cost is usually a couple of hundred dollars. The fact that Medicare and Medicaid cover it is a very good sign. In my experience, they usually only cover tried and true procedures, not snake oil. It also bodes well for the future coverage by private insurance companies. RM

(01-10-2018, 01:22 AM)fishfarmer Wrote: Thanks for the advice My Friend! I over-use, OK abuse Alcohol. I know it is a depressant. Does Benzo use over time because of it's sedative effects worsen or contribute to Depression? I think a lot of folks would be curious to know. Thanks-FF

Hey FF,
Benzo's do have a slight depressant effect. That effect is more pronounced in some people than in others. What combats that is the relief from stress that they give. In other words, they would work best for someone whose depression is primarily stress-based. Remove the stress and much of the depression lifts. A person in this situation would hardly notice the depressant effect of the benzo. Other who suffer from a more conventional form of depression (a depletion of the biochemicals in the brain that control feelings of satiation, comfort, safety, motivation--and/or a problem with the receptors which activate those biochemicals) may be made worse by benzo (or alcohol) use. C-pam use, for instance, is associated with increased levels of frustration and anger. Each benzo has slightly different properties. I would think that every person is also a little bit different. Over all, I would still think that it was prudent for a doctor to prescribe a benzo to any patient, depressed or not, who suffered from chronic or severe anxiety. Just my opinion, though.  Take care, my friend. RM

(01-08-2018, 10:46 PM)Blockhead59 Wrote: Hey Rafterman,
You know a lot about depression and I think I speak as others have when I say I appreciate your sharing your 30-years, if I remember correctly, knowledge and experience helping others with us.

I knew about these types of questions. If a psych asked me, I would just lie. But when you are asking them of yourself, by yourself, you kind of think, yeah, I couldn't wait to leave my job, so I could go to bed. That getting out of bed and yawning was a reason to get back into bed. That just because I actually, miraculously made the bed, doesn't mean, I can't roll back those blankets after being awake a few hours.

Thanks for all the info!

Very much my pleasure, BH. Thank YOU.
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Great Post Naomi, I to, years ago would always have a couple beers as my anti-anxiety med and it gradually grew to 15 or so every night after work. Still an alcoholic but down to 6-8 a day, it's a start anyway! Med's are much kinder to a person than alcohol, but it is a hard habit to break, and Hat's Off to you for doing so! Best Wishes-FF
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I always thought having Benzos would make it so much harder to stop drinking because they would basically erase any hangover. Not taking them anymore really kinda amplified the hang-overs and eventually got me to quit drinking with Naltrexone. It was quite the process and some days still kinda have the suck but I'm glad it finally worked.
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You are correct coffeedude22, I do not get hung-over because I drink much less, but also the Clon helps, Great point! Best Wishes-FF
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(01-11-2018, 03:45 AM)coffeedude22 Wrote: I always thought having Benzos would make it so much harder to stop drinking because they would basically erase any hangover.  Not taking them anymore really kinda amplified the hang-overs and eventually got me to quit drinking with Naltrexone.  It was quite the process and some days still kinda have the suck but I'm glad it finally worked.

Hang in there, my friend. People talk about how hard it is to kick all kinds of substances but, truth be known, alcohol is as hard to put aside as any of them. Even harder than most. It's been a long time now, but I do know from personal experience, as well as counseling. Stay strong.  RM

(01-11-2018, 02:14 AM)fishfarmer Wrote: Great Post Naomi, I to, years ago would always have a couple beers as my anti-anxiety med and it gradually grew to 15 or so every night after work. Still an alcoholic but down to 6-8 a day, it's a start anyway! Med's are much kinder to a person than alcohol, but it is a hard habit to break, and Hat's Off to you for doing so! Best Wishes-FF
Way to go, my good friend, FF. I think that you have a tremendous amount of resolve. The most amazing thing is how you continually put aside the problems you have in your own life and come on here and encourage others. It is really inspirational. My best to you.  RM
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(01-11-2018, 02:14 AM)fishfarmer Wrote: Great Post Naomi, I to, years ago would always have a couple beers as my anti-anxiety med and it gradually grew to 15 or so every night after work. Still an alcoholic but down to 6-8 a day, it's a start anyway! Med's are much kinder to a person than alcohol, but it is a hard habit to break, and Hat's Off to you for doing so! Best Wishes-FF

Progress is progress. That's a win in my book. You're trying and you care about your well-being. Keep doing what you're doing. The journey tends to be long, but so worth it. Stay well!
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(01-19-2018, 06:04 AM)Naomi Wrote:
(01-11-2018, 02:14 AM)fishfarmer Wrote: Great Post Naomi, I to, years ago would always have a couple beers as my anti-anxiety med and it gradually grew to 15 or so every night after work. Still an alcoholic but down to 6-8 a day, it's a start anyway! Med's are much kinder to a person than alcohol, but it is a hard habit to break, and Hat's Off to you for doing so! Best Wishes-FF

Progress is progress. That's a win in my book. You're trying and you care about your well-being. Keep doing what you're doing. The journey tends to be long, but so worth it. Stay well!
Hear, hear! Well said.
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