Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Best benzo for opiate w/d?
#1
My cousin is finally ready to kick the smack and wants to do it at home. He is using the Thomas recipe, which calls for a benzo. I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a good one for opiate w/d? Xanax seems out, with its short half life and higher potential for addiction. Klonopin maybe, due it its long half-life? Ativan? It would just be for a short time (his would make sure he only took it for a week or two for sleep and comfort). Any suggestions welcome!
Reply
#2
I never helped someone withdraw from the big H. But, i would be more comfortable with a person using valium. I don't know klonopin. But, as an old timer, i believe in the tried and true.

Valium would ease pain, nausea, restless leg, spasms and seizures in my humble opinion.

I don't give medical advice, but it is just a thought.
Angel  It is Well with My Soul  Angel
Reply
#3
Batgirl,

Like Charon, have no direct experience.  But, for me, klon of a respected brand takes a bit longer to act, but lasts longer than v for me.
Best luck to your friend. 







Spanky
Reply
#4
OT: u r so funny mr. spankster with ur sig line. poor spanky.
Angel  It is Well with My Soul  Angel
Reply
#5
Valium due to the longer half-life. Some clonodine will also help with the BP issues
Reply
#6
You are all so helpful! Looks like val is the way to go. He will have clonodine as well.
Reply
#7
Thanks so much for the advice. His girlfriend will be caring for him (she is a saint), and I will support her as I can, though I am a bit burned out on his behavior at this point. She will be doling out meds, and he will only have a supply for 2 weeks. Sounds like Xanax and Vals are the way to go. Again, many thanks!
Reply
#8
2 weeks would be a good amount of time, and he should feel very differently by day 8 or 9, with that feeling of "second wind" and renewed inner strength hitting by day 5 of being opiate free/sick (this latter aspect I've found to be the case with pretty much any opiate.. This 5 day second wind thing is in spite of/even with acute w/d's for different opiates lasting varying times, anywhere from 7 to 10 days - very rarely a tad bit more for 1 or 2 particularly nasty opiates - sometimes it truly feels like (or even is) 14 days (though many will say "oh, it's just psychological at that point" - even though the mental aspects manifest as very real physical symptoms in the beginning so comments like that are not really accurate)). The second wind will come, believe me.

Very happy to hear he has someone to take care of him AND dole out medication in a responsible/consistent fashion; this should be a HUGE help! This is because a large part of this is the extinction effect; meaning, he should begin to associate 'relief' not with his independently dosing his pills for pleasure or respite, but with this supportive atmostophere and more of a "medical" procedure...a factor sometimes underrated by the home detoxer.

The less he emulates old habits, the more he will form new connections in his brain ("rewiring" it, so to speak, which leads to the extinction phenomenon that the brain's ability of neuroplasticity depends on/is so involved in and helps drive recovery so much). Best of luck!! Smile And keep us updated.

By the way, if I may ask, which substance(s) in particular is he coming off of?
Reply
#9
the big H. in post one.
Angel  It is Well with My Soul  Angel
Reply
#10
I know a list of medications to Kick H. and Benzo's are only a small part of that equation. I know first hand.. Kpins are helpful, Val's are helpful as well. Those two alone are the only benzos I'd recommend. Also clonidine is EXTREMELY helpful and helped me lower my does of Subutex and of course H. I have an extensive personal history combating Opiate addiction.. Can your First see a doctor? If not I can help and give the exact list of medications. Please let me know as I know the pure HELL that goes along with coming off of H.

PM me if you're actually serious about helping your pal come down easy. I offer my time and advice out of the kindness of my heart, because when I was suffering, I had few guys talk to me personally... I can PROMISE you a significant change and chance of help.. I give you my word and my oath to give you the most solid advice possible.
Reply


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)