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Why are PK's so difficult to find on IOP's and DNM's?
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(09-27-2016, 12:50 PM)FirePlaces Wrote: 30 mg a day is a lot Milkman IMO, specially for a child in middle school.  By middle school do you mean 6th, 7th, or 8th grades?  

Did your parents have a position on the meds or just trusted the doc?

I find it so irresponsible that your doc back then did not taper you off.  Of course you would find another source.  No one wants to go through WDs.  

I SO agree on the education about these meds being critical.  

Glad your shoulder is finally ok.  Sorry you are kind of stuck on subs but good for you that you didn't let these meds ruin your life.

I was in 7th when prescribed and was taken off the summer going into 9th I believe. My memory gets a little fuzzy when trying to gauge time.  My parents at the time I feel trusted this Dr. because he was a family friend, and I think he thought that he was doing me a favor cutting me off at the time.  I am sure they knew about the addictive properties and what not, but thought "not my kid".  My parents have harbored a lot of guilt over it even though I have told them they couldn't have known.  They have helped me through the aftermath every step of the way, including kicking me out as to not enable when I got bad with my use.  They were the first to take me to the Suboxone Dr. when I was ready to face the issue though.  I do feel that the tone has changed in society with people being more aware.  If this would have happened today I am guessing they would have kept an eye on the whole medicating process.  Everything is hindsight 20/20 though.  Thanks for the reply!  This can be a touchy issue as people really need these meds, but we all know the mess they can create handled with little education.

(09-28-2016, 04:26 PM)Tbaronfl Wrote: This is what happens when public policy is made by those who no nothing about the issue except what they're told by others who have an agenda - Pharma or even the well intended but ignorant. It gets between you and your doctor. Lets face it, big govt loves to stick its nose where it doesnt belong. Why? because it gives them more to do, more to control, more to justify their interference. WHich leads only to one thing - more control, cause ultimately that's what they need to justify their power. A Vicious cycle. The Nanny State.

Its funny you mention this as I was trying to get off suboxone with the help of an herb that's been legal for years.  I knew people that treated their chronic pain with it, as well as others who it helped get off opiates by relieving some of the physical withdrawals.  Now big gov has scheduled it because it is of no value to them.  Not one overdose recorded as well.  I cant say the same for what the doctors have given me throughout the years.  I have come to the conclusion that most of our "leaders" are sociopaths.  It seems to me that you need to have little empathy to make it through the years as a higher level career politician.
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