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(05-26-2016, 09:51 AM)iovio Wrote: Hello Barq,

Thanks for the email, I tend to be on the lengthy side of emails too rather than the monosyllabic, so apologies if this goes into one......
By the way I have nothing against people enjoying a drink, I Just can't unfortunately.  But it does simply prove the politics and economics behind the truth. Banning Alcohol or Tobacco would surely cost the revenue Billions in tax and duty. The problem where this new law has gone terribly wrong is what the BBC propaganda machine doesn't tell the average joe is everything else that has been blacklisted without any intellectual rationale behind it. I believe a leading expert wrote a piece in the new scientist that  they were appalled by the uneducated debate in parliament on the subject. 
I didn't use so called legal highs maybe once or twice but completely ineffective to my system,so I guess I didn't have a Pyschoactive effect. 

My concern is as you say due to lack of resources the impact this law may have on alternative medicines which are miraculous for some,like Kratom being seized as the Police or Customs can't discern. All cognitive enhancers are included in the ban. Which is a disgrace. Luckily I can just about argue the case legitimately that everything I use is classified as a medicine.  

All the best

Io
Hi Io,

Good to hear from you. Some very good points there. We agree the legislation is very badly written and hypocritical. Two thoughts I had since my last post (sorry it was massively long, I'm verbose by nature AND this is really complicated):

1) I am glad that "spice" type synthetic cannabis is banned. I live near a homeless hostel and I see people on spice every day. It has nothing in common with real cannabis. People on spice behave like they are on crack or meth. Horrible withdrawals means they will do anything to pay for another hit (inc burglary). The antisocial behaviour I was seeing on the streets was just crazy. A friend works in another hostel and says they knew what to do with alcohol and heroin, but things like spice is far worse. So that's probably the one good thing that has come out of this ban.

I really don't want to demonise homeless people - I see them as the victims. I was friendly with a homeless lad who died on the streets. He was doing spice and it broke my heart (I helped pay for his funeral). Spice wasn't his only problem, but there was no viable route to treatment or detox. Speaking of which, I assume there must be thousands of people coming off spice cold turkey.

2) Cognitive enhancers - yes, that seems a pity especially since nootropics seem, for the most part, very safe. I think the ones that are actually medicines will be ok. So getting modafinil shouldn't be an issue - I don't think, or do people have other opinions here? I very occasionally use it in extremely small quantities. Without occasional modafinil I simply could not function well enough to do my job. Piracetam might be ok because that is a medicine. The problem would be a) all the nootropics that aren't medicine, and b) the dosage for piracetam as medicine is far lower than required as a nootropic. I think medical piracetam is 200mg, but people report benefits at 2 or 3g. It would be a crazy expensive.

Aside from modafinil I don't know much about nootropics so would be interested in other opinions on this.
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Suggest an UK vendor - by Charon - 07-23-2015, 02:38 PM
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