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[yellowdog]

Hi yellowdog and welcome.

I know how you feel, I'm from the UK too and had a vendor let me down after a couple of years and then before him one disappeared too.

At least the last one didn't run off with my cash!

You'll find lots to read on here and people are really friendly and generous with their positive advice.

Cheers!

JW4


Thank you so much!

[IceWizard]

Zup there YellowDog ,,,

You found us and that my new friend, is over half the battle .... Vendors have been know to come and go, however, they do not last here by screwing over folks ... We do not take "kick backs" or whatever they call them... Our members are some of the finest folks on this old planet and we don't let scammers nest up in this shire...

We do have several good folks from the UK and other parts around, so you are in the best place you could be if you are looking for help as we don't condone the "party" atmosphere here... We are honest, hard working folks that are in need of a bit of relief ...

So, welcome to the family and I am looking foward to getting to know ya.... Oh yeah, we have a "Linville's Coffee Shop" in the lounge area where we all go just to shoot the ,,,,, Breeze, let's call it the breeze

Ice

[Dancing Wolf]

Welcome, yellowdog

This is a wonderful community to learn and make friends

The admin/mods work very hard to keep us all safe here, to have a nice place where we can share our experiences & problems

Best wishes

[Linville]

welcome yellowdog.

I see I am late and you are already enjoying the forum.

How do you feel like you are fitting in, okay now, I hope so , it seems fine with me. 

[Melissa]

Hello Yellow dog. Thank-you for the welcome.
When you said that you have it difficult for the doctor to proscribe the sleeping medicines.
You are meaning this? Zolpidem & Zopliclone?

My Doctor also does not like to give. Sometimes he give Temazepam for times. Acute condition only as way to go back to normal.
But the Temazepam is giving the feeling the next day also. So Zopiclone is giving bad taste in the mouth but Zolpidem is ok.

They do not work so good as before, after some nights of taking these.
So the Doctor will give I write in a journal all the times I sleep and wake. I write "I go to bed at 11 then get up at 3 for a shower because I cannot sleep at all. I try to sleep again at 4 but have to be getting up in only nearly 3 hours. And so I do not sleep tonight."
Then again the next day I write "I could not finish work today and left 2 hour early because I was tired. Then I sleep from 7 until 3 but was awake and did not sleep again until the night after 2 because I felt sick from being tired and then late to work because did not hear alarm."

When it is bad like now with sleeping and not hungry and no energy then i show the journal to the doctor and say that no sleep is having big problems in my life and it is making me feel unwell.

Then the Doctor takes proof and will not say only drink hot milk or read a book. Then the Doctor will say ok take the Zolpidem for some nights and here extra for if it happens again. Then it is Chronic condition and medicine is no good it is how living life that is to look at. But sometimes then it is a can of worms!

I mean diary not journal. A Sleep Diary.
This is to show the Doctor to get proof because he will say "I will not give you again if you say even if you are crying". But with the book and many weeks of showing it is problem and making unwell the Doctor must do a thing and it is easy for them to give the medicine when they are busy at that time.

There is a saying A Man who is his own Doctor has a Fool for a Patient. But sometimes it is good to make the Doctor give things for Acute condition before it is Chronic and makes unwell. So busy time of day and with Diary it is shown that a month of bad things. Then he gives because it is treatment and no time to talk much but can read fast. Not to ask but to show is need.

I am sorry you trouble with sleeping. Me too.I have nightmares about bad experiences and it makes awake sometimes Temazepam is good because it stop the bad dream. Then it only awake that is having problems

I wanted to share you the Sleep Diary because it helps the Doctor not proscribe hot milk.

---

Writing the letter has made me now tired!

I hope it is easy understanding. I work on past present and future but forget (forgot)?. Also there is R-drugs Radedorm & Relanium but they have the next day the effect also like Temazepam.

[yellowdog]

Hello Yellow dog. Thank-you for the welcome.
When you said that you have it difficult for the doctor to proscribe the sleeping medicines.
You are meaning this? Zolpidem & Zopliclone?

My Doctor also does not like to give. Sometimes he give Temazepam for times. Acute condition only as way to go back to normal.
But the Temazepam is giving the feeling the next day also. So Zopiclone is giving bad taste in the mouth but Zolpidem is ok.

They do not work so good as before, after some nights of taking these.
So the Doctor will give I write in a journal all the times I sleep and wake. I write "I go to bed at 11 then get up at 3 for a shower because I cannot sleep at all. I try to sleep again at 4 but have to be getting up in only nearly 3 hours. And so I do not sleep tonight."
Then again the next day I write "I could not finish work today and left 2 hour early because I was tired. Then I sleep from 7 until 3 but was awake and did not sleep again until the night after 2 because I felt sick from being tired and then late to work because did not hear alarm."

When it is bad like now with sleeping and not hungry and no energy then i show the journal to the doctor and say that no sleep is having big problems in my life and it is making me feel unwell.

Then the Doctor takes proof and will not say only drink hot milk or read a book. Then the Doctor will say ok take the Zolpidem for some nights and here extra for if it happens again. Then it is Chronic condition and medicine is no good it is how living life that is to look at. But sometimes then it is a can of worms!

I mean diary not journal. A Sleep Diary.
This is to show the Doctor to get proof because he will say "I will not give you again if you say even if you are crying". But with the book and many weeks of showing it is problem and making unwell the Doctor must do a thing and it is easy for them to give the medicine when they are busy at that time.

There is a saying A Man who is his own Doctor has a Fool for a Patient. But sometimes it is good to make the Doctor give things for Acute condition before it is Chronic and makes unwell. So busy time of day and with Diary it is shown that a month of bad things. Then he gives because it is treatment and no time to talk much but can read fast. Not to ask but to show is need.

I am sorry you trouble with sleeping. Me too.I have nightmares about bad experiences and it makes awake sometimes Temazepam is good because it stop the bad dream. Then it only awake that is having problems

I wanted to share you the Sleep Diary because it helps the Doctor not proscribe hot milk.

---

Writing the letter has made me now tired!

I hope it is easy understanding. I work on past present and future but forget (forgot)?. Also there is R-drugs Radedorm & Relanium but they have the next day the effect also like Temazepam.

my GP cut me of Zopliclone I don't think they even prescribe Zopidem in the UK, anyways I am fortunate to find a supplies after getting ripped off .

I cannot function without sleep, and since they upgraded Z pills to class C is near impossible to get them prescribed.
longest I gone without sleep is over 4 days and started to hallunicate,

I try to take breaks from  z pills so they keep effective.
have you tried old fashioned histimines? there is one called phenegren ( think I spelt that wrong) that works.

Thanks again for making me feel so welcome, it feels like a proper community here

[Charon]

phenergan i belive. i shall do my best to look it up tomorrow for u all.

Hope you get your sleep soon.