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Job cuts, no Social Security checks: How consumers could be pinched by a US government default
By DARLENE SUPERVILLE
2 hours ago
Debt limit showdown
Biden and Congress
New era of spending
FILE - President Joe Biden talks with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., as he departs the Capitol following the annual St. Patrick's Day gathering, in Washington, March 17, 2023. Facing the risk of a federal government default as soon as June 1, President Joe Biden has invited the top four congressional leaders to a White House meeting on May 9 for talks. It’s the first concrete step toward negotiations on averting a potential economic catastrophe, but there’s a long way to go: Biden and Republicans can’t even agree on what’s up for negotiation. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)
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FILE - President Joe Biden talks with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., as he departs the Capitol following the annual St. Patrick's Day gathering, in Washington, March 17, 2023. Facing the risk of a federal government default as soon as June 1, President Joe Biden has invited the top four congressional leaders to a White House meeting on May 9 for talks. It’s the first concrete step toward negotiations on averting a potential economic catastrophe, but there’s a long way to go: Biden and Republicans can’t even agree on what’s up for negotiation. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)
WASHINGTON (AP) — All the hand-wringing in Washington over raising the debt limit can seem far removed from the lives of everyday Americans, but they could end up facing huge consequences.

Millions of people in the U.S. rely on benefits that could go unpaid and services that could be disrupted, or halted altogether, if the government can’t pay its bills for an extended period.

If the economy tanked due to default, more than 8 million people could lose their jobs, government officials estimate. Millions of Social Security beneficiaries, veterans and military families could lose their monthly payments. Vital federal services including border and air traffic control could be disrupted if workers can’t get their government paychecks.

The economy could nosedive into a recession.

President Joe Biden and the top congressional leaders from both parties met at the White House on Tuesday to try to resolve it all, their second such meeting in as many weeks.

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WHAT’S THE PROBLEM?
If the government’s legal borrowing limit of $31.4 trillion is not raised or suspended by June 1, the result could be financial havoc. The inability to borrow money to keep paying government obligations could mean businesses sent into bankruptcy, crashes piling up across financial markets and lasting economic pain. The damage would be financial, but the cause would be political, a breakdown between Republicans and Democrats, rather than a problem with a basically healthy U.S. economy.

RELATED COVERAGE:
– Debt Ceiling: Deal possible by end of week, McCarthy says; Biden cuts short upcoming foreign trip
– In debt ceiling standoff, COVID era of big spending gives way to new focus on deficit
– Job cuts, no Social Security checks: How consumers could be pinched by a US government default
WHAT’S HOLDING UP AN AGREEMENT?
Philosophical differences with financial consequences.

Republicans want spending cuts in exchange for raising the debt ceiling, saying the current pace of spending is unsustainable. Biden and congressional Democrats want the debt limit raised without conditions, arguing that the two issues should not be linked.


Biden had said he would not negotiate over the debt limit, but that he would have a separate conversation with McCarthy about the federal budget.

WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH THE BUDGET?
First the budget is not the debt. The budget is the money the government takes in and spends each year. If it spends more than it brings in — a budget deficit — that adds to the debt that has been building basically forever.




Biden dared McCarthy to produce a budget plan, and House Republicans responded by narrowly approving a bill to reduce deficits by $4.8 trillion over 10 years. It would do so by cutting discretionary spending to 2022 levels and placing an annual 1% cap on future increases. The bill would also reclaim billions of unspent COVID-19 funding, eliminate clean energy tax credits Biden signed into law last year and reverse his student debt forgiveness and repayment plan.

It’s unclear how Democrats can get the debt ceiling increased without support from House Republicans. But Democrats say the GOP bill’s unspecified budget cuts would harm individuals — and the economy — as domestic spending would likely be cut. Moody’s Analytics estimates the Republican bill would cause the loss of 780,000 jobs next year alone.

ARE THERE ANY POSSIBLE AVENUES OF AGREEMENT?
Besides repurposing unspent COVID-19 funding, the White House and House Republicans could agree to tighten certain work requirements for federal aid programs that benefit the needy. The GOP-controlled House passed legislation that imposes more stringent conditions for people receiving food stamps, or SNAP benefits, as well as adults without dependents on Medicaid and recipients of Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, which offers aid to low-income families with children.

Biden over the weekend appeared to rule out changes to Medicaid. The White House said he would reject proposals that take away people’s health coverage or push them into poverty.

WHO WOULD SUFFER THE MOST FROM A DEFAULT?
Basically everyone, because the jolt to the U.S. and global financial systems would be so “catastrophic,” Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Tuesday in a speech to community bankers.

But working people, those living paycheck to paycheck and people who rely on government benefits and services would face the biggest blows through job losses and the loss of income.

Yellen, in her speech, urged Congress to act quickly. “The U.S. economy hangs in the balance. The livelihoods of millions of Americans do, too,” she said.


HOW DOES IT END?
No one really knows, though McConnell, a longtime Senate Republican leader, said this after last week’s White House meeting: “The United States is not going to default. It never has and it never will.”


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Fear Not
The US has defaulted on the debt Ceiling 3 times over the years

We are currently operating on a temporary increase on the debt limits - as The current administration was over budget 4 months ago - and nothing was done - The administration refused to discuss this

There is always an option to pass short time temp bills that last a month or so to keep all money flowing.
This is what happened before

SSI payment will not be affected unless you still receive checks by mail - and only if the US PS has a short term stop. Which is doubtful

Social Security and Vet Beni's are funded in advance to prevent this - So It would be at least 4 months before there would even be any effect
Politicians would never let this happen - they like their jobs too much

DFAS Payroll may be affected as well as other National Govt payrolls - but it has never been more than 1 week in history and always restarted

People saying that the country will fall - are just blowing smoke.

Janet Yellen - really does not have a clue - Remembe she told us that inflation was transitory - well my transitory grocery bill - seems like its been going up every week

TBH - looking at the long term - the debt has risen over 10 trillion in just a few short years - Thats a whole lot of money that WE and The Kids are going to have to pay back
The only way to make good on that debt - is to raise taxes on everyone or increase productivity in the US to collect more taxes on goods that are sold

Think of it like a credit card
you have a 1000 dollar limit
Today you buy a 1000 dolllar pair of shoes
but
You really want to buy the pants to go with the shoes

unfortunatly you dont have any money so you need to borrow it from someone - but everyone else is broke so
You go to the credit card company and ask for a credit limit increase

The Credit Card people look at your history - and look to see who they can borrow money from - Usually China - or Japan who the US Treasury owes the most money too
They say its ok because they found money and you have been pretty good so they give you another 1000 at interest
so
Now you own 1000 plus interest but you have another 1000 to spend

You go out and buy that nice pair of hot pants for 1000
Your looking pretty good there --- shoes and pants

But if you just had that shirt to go with it ---- back to the credit card game ---
3000 limit - you buy the shirt and you are the talk of the town

Your looking so hot - dressed better than Armani

But the end of the month comes and you have to pay the bills

You got a great credit card interest rate of 5% - but the payment is due today - and your broke
What do you do ?

Well
You request a credit card limit increase - so you can make the payments with the money you borrow
This is where the loop is - You have to request more to pay off what you owe
How many times can you do that ?

The debt ceiling increase - is asking our borrowers to give us money so we can pay them back - For you and I - that is illegal - but for the govt its standard practice

--- So why not just print up more money?
Well They did that - The US put into circulation so much that the value of the Dollar has fallen - This is what caused inflation - Why the dollar you had 2 years ago - cant by nearly as much as it did before.

The current proposed Debt limit as presented by the president wants to do 2 things - Increase the amount of dollars printed and ask our borrowers for more money to pay them back - with some extras to pay for the upcoming expenses of support the war, paying for the immigrants and provide money all over the world to combat climate policy after that using the other half to build some projects that really dont do much

Spending is really out of control - If you didnt notice your taxes when you filed - you probably didnt get back nearly as much - and next year - its going to be less

I doubt anyone takes the time to read this - but hopefully it provides a bit of reality as to what is going on

The country is not going to crash and burn if the debt celing is not renewed - its all and alwys has been just smoke and mirrors
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